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The Learning Gap in Going to Market with Sales and Marketing for Young Companies with Joseph McGrail of Champion Sales and Marketing

Joseph McGrail, the creative director, and founder at Champion Sales and Marketing joins Shawn Kaleky in another episode of Failing to Success. Joseph specializes in young startups, pre-seed series, and mid-size companies, as well as B2B companies that are looking to sell to other businesses. He got his start in Adtech and Martech, where he developed a unique mix of sales, marketing, and operational tactics that deliver measurable results in a cost-effective way in a controlled environment.

Joseph talks about how tools and technology have played a significant role in the marketing approach of companies. He believes that companies need to go above and beyond an ideal customer profile to deliver real value and relevance to their client base. Creativity is vital when targeting B2B sales-led demand generation. Companies need to take a manual process and structure, such as looking at three-star reviews on G2 Crowd of their competitor's products, taking the cons associated with that technology, and turning them into selling points to target companies that are adopting that technology.

The biggest challenge for young startups is the learning gap in going to market with sales and marketing. Companies need to understand what's the optimal messaging for specific verticals across specific target roles. They may differ depending on which vertical and which target role the company is calling into. Young companies don't have enough framework to create a controlled environment to learn through sales-led outbound B2B demand generation. They focus more on individual performance metrics, such as activity metrics, which delays the ability for the young company to identify those scalable learning mechanisms to generate predictability across their sales and marketing operation.

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Joseph McGrail from Champion Sales & Marketing: https://www.championsalesandmarketing.com/

Shawn Kaleky from Cosmic Design: https://www.cosmicdesign.io/

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